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		<title>By: Ken Appleby</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=749&#038;cpage=1#comment-28891</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Appleby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not sure I buy all this blame the lawyer stuff.  This thread focuses on who is saying what (and speculating that lawyers are out to get GA) rather than focusing on the preventable error that may have actually occurred.  Having said that, the reality here may be that a mechanic (or someone else) was negligent and two persons lost their lives as a result.  Accidents happen but I do not think that gives anyone a free pass on poor conduct.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not sure I buy all this blame the lawyer stuff.  This thread focuses on who is saying what (and speculating that lawyers are out to get GA) rather than focusing on the preventable error that may have actually occurred.  Having said that, the reality here may be that a mechanic (or someone else) was negligent and two persons lost their lives as a result.  Accidents happen but I do not think that gives anyone a free pass on poor conduct.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris M</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=749&#038;cpage=1#comment-28814</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Al Arena - lawyers are not the problem.  The real problem is that our society is developing a &quot;blame someone else&quot; attitude.  Accidents happen, and they are not always due to someone else&#039;s negligence.  Perfection is not the Standard of Care for life - and everyone needs to remember that.  That said, it is important to add that whoever left a flashlight inside that airplane (LSA is immaterial to the facts at hand), was negligent.  If a mechanic leaves a screwdriver on top of your car engine when it is being serviced (and I have quite a collection of them to prove it happens), the consequences are minimal.  If an mechanic leaves tools in your airplane, the consequences may or may not be minimal.  In this case, whether it was one of the persons building the aircraft or a maintenance mechanic, the consequences cost two people their lives.  Complacency kills.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Al Arena &#8211; lawyers are not the problem.  The real problem is that our society is developing a &#8220;blame someone else&#8221; attitude.  Accidents happen, and they are not always due to someone else&#8217;s negligence.  Perfection is not the Standard of Care for life &#8211; and everyone needs to remember that.  That said, it is important to add that whoever left a flashlight inside that airplane (LSA is immaterial to the facts at hand), was negligent.  If a mechanic leaves a screwdriver on top of your car engine when it is being serviced (and I have quite a collection of them to prove it happens), the consequences are minimal.  If an mechanic leaves tools in your airplane, the consequences may or may not be minimal.  In this case, whether it was one of the persons building the aircraft or a maintenance mechanic, the consequences cost two people their lives.  Complacency kills.</p>
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		<title>By: Al Arena</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=749&#038;cpage=1#comment-28808</link>
		<dc:creator>Al Arena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 01:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A tragic accident that should not dissuade us in our pursuit of the LSA experience.  I have been flying the Sierra for two years and have full confidence in its aerodynamic capabilities.  This does, however, call attention to the need for performing the required maintenance and safety checks just like you would with any other GA aircraft.  My hats off to all of you out there who work so hard to support these efforts and perform the maintenance that keeps us airborne.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A tragic accident that should not dissuade us in our pursuit of the LSA experience.  I have been flying the Sierra for two years and have full confidence in its aerodynamic capabilities.  This does, however, call attention to the need for performing the required maintenance and safety checks just like you would with any other GA aircraft.  My hats off to all of you out there who work so hard to support these efforts and perform the maintenance that keeps us airborne.</p>
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		<title>By: Denne Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denne Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Granted that there are a lot of bottom-feeding lawyers out there who will take ANY case,,   but keep in mind please that lawyers do not initiate these cases: they are initiated by some creep just wanting to make &quot;free money&quot; by a lawsuit.. sometimes it is just for &quot;go away money&quot; when they know they don&#039;t have a good case.     As one of the GOOD attorneys I dislike the bottom-feeders more than anyone....but please don&#039;t blame the lawyers when it is a citizen who HIRES THE LAWYER...    
  thanks, 
 Estate Planning - Probate lawyer and licensed pilot]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Granted that there are a lot of bottom-feeding lawyers out there who will take ANY case,,   but keep in mind please that lawyers do not initiate these cases: they are initiated by some creep just wanting to make &#8220;free money&#8221; by a lawsuit.. sometimes it is just for &#8220;go away money&#8221; when they know they don&#8217;t have a good case.     As one of the GOOD attorneys I dislike the bottom-feeders more than anyone&#8230;.but please don&#8217;t blame the lawyers when it is a citizen who HIRES THE LAWYER&#8230;<br />
  thanks,<br />
 Estate Planning &#8211; Probate lawyer and licensed pilot</p>
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		<title>By: Bob H.</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=749&#038;cpage=1#comment-28793</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOL Bruce, I was thinking the same thing.  You might want to contact some friends in the machinist union. They can get ready for a new kind of safety device that must be attached to every tool they use. We might even be able to predict that they update their acronyms lists to include the &quot;TLT -  Tool Locator Transmitter&quot; 

At least RFID tags are light, and usually don&#039;t require batteries, but the infrastructure and annual inspection requirements will be costly. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Bruce, I was thinking the same thing.  You might want to contact some friends in the machinist union. They can get ready for a new kind of safety device that must be attached to every tool they use. We might even be able to predict that they update their acronyms lists to include the &#8220;TLT &#8211;  Tool Locator Transmitter&#8221; </p>
<p>At least RFID tags are light, and usually don&#8217;t require batteries, but the infrastructure and annual inspection requirements will be costly. <img src='http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bruce L.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 21:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now that facts have been established, it is time to watch out for legislators and bureaucrats, who will jump on a story like this and then invent a 35 page form to certify that all control linkages have been inspected for foreign objects before each and every flight (including local daytime VFR).  They would require that said form must be submitted &quot;for approval&quot; 14 days prior to each flight, along with a $200 &quot;safety fee&quot;.  There would also be a 97 page addendum for flying into an ADIZ, or outer ring of a VIP TFR, which would have to be co-signed by a current DAE who had had an FAA-approved colonoscopy within the last 52 days.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that facts have been established, it is time to watch out for legislators and bureaucrats, who will jump on a story like this and then invent a 35 page form to certify that all control linkages have been inspected for foreign objects before each and every flight (including local daytime VFR).  They would require that said form must be submitted &#8220;for approval&#8221; 14 days prior to each flight, along with a $200 &#8220;safety fee&#8221;.  There would also be a 97 page addendum for flying into an ADIZ, or outer ring of a VIP TFR, which would have to be co-signed by a current DAE who had had an FAA-approved colonoscopy within the last 52 days.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=749&#038;cpage=1#comment-28791</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You mean a bottom-feeding plaintiff&#039;s attorney and a hired-gun expert witness tried to assign product liability before the facts are in? Color me with the surprised crayon!

Seriously, as long as civil lawsuits allow for &quot;reasonable attorney&#039;s fees&quot;, this monkey will never get off our back. They might as well call it the &quot;indigent attorney&#039;s right-to-work act&quot;. The trial bar is part of a potent, poisonous cocktail that is killing this country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean a bottom-feeding plaintiff&#8217;s attorney and a hired-gun expert witness tried to assign product liability before the facts are in? Color me with the surprised crayon!</p>
<p>Seriously, as long as civil lawsuits allow for &#8220;reasonable attorney&#8217;s fees&#8221;, this monkey will never get off our back. They might as well call it the &#8220;indigent attorney&#8217;s right-to-work act&#8221;. The trial bar is part of a potent, poisonous cocktail that is killing this country.</p>
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		<title>By: M. E. Atwood</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=749&#038;cpage=1#comment-28789</link>
		<dc:creator>M. E. Atwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This aircraft crashed approximately 5 miles from my house and pictures in the news showed an accordian type crumbled airframe.  In other words, almost straight down and there witnesses accounts saying the same.  My wife asked me what happended and I told her it look like some type of control problem.  A flashlight, or any other type monkey wrench, in the controls would certainly qualify.  It is truly ashame that the press can&#039;t wait until they have more facts..not to mentioin attorneys.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This aircraft crashed approximately 5 miles from my house and pictures in the news showed an accordian type crumbled airframe.  In other words, almost straight down and there witnesses accounts saying the same.  My wife asked me what happended and I told her it look like some type of control problem.  A flashlight, or any other type monkey wrench, in the controls would certainly qualify.  It is truly ashame that the press can&#8217;t wait until they have more facts..not to mentioin attorneys.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Huckemeyer</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=749&#038;cpage=1#comment-28788</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Huckemeyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Bruce, for setting the record straight!  We seem to have a lot of people these days who are jumping to conclusions before the facts are known. (And not just in avaition matters.)  Keep up the good work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Bruce, for setting the record straight!  We seem to have a lot of people these days who are jumping to conclusions before the facts are known. (And not just in avaition matters.)  Keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Sharp</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=749&#038;cpage=1#comment-28785</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Sharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My first thought about this accident occurred when I read that they were cancelling the flying program.  Well, maybe &quot;cancelling&quot; is the wrong word, but the impression was, no more flying &#039;cause flying is dangerous.

So, my thought and question then was, &quot;What do they do when a high school football player dies during practice?&quot;  Do they cancel the football program?  Never read anything like that!  And never will!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought about this accident occurred when I read that they were cancelling the flying program.  Well, maybe &#8220;cancelling&#8221; is the wrong word, but the impression was, no more flying &#8217;cause flying is dangerous.</p>
<p>So, my thought and question then was, &#8220;What do they do when a high school football player dies during practice?&#8221;  Do they cancel the football program?  Never read anything like that!  And never will!</p>
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