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	<title>Comments on: Ice Education</title>
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		<title>By: Jim McNeill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim McNeill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 21:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over a 50 year career I frequently encountered ice, and the encounters are always a big deal, not matter the equipment I was flying.   

I was scarred early on by a September SLD encounter in FIKI-equipped Army U-3, before anybody knew what SLD was.  That day I learned that icing exists in what appeared to be innocuous clouds on a day when nobody was forecasting ice, and that ice can take down any aircraft, no matter how well equipped.   If the clouds hadn&#039;t had a high base with temperatures above freezing in the valleys I wouldn&#039;t be here today.   

For the rest of my career I worked really, really hard to avoid ice, flying through it but never in it for any period of time.   Later on, the Aviation Digital Data Service (ADDS) icing forecasts were great for picking routes and altitudes which minimized icing encounters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Over a 50 year career I frequently encountered ice, and the encounters are always a big deal, not matter the equipment I was flying.   </p>
<p>I was scarred early on by a September SLD encounter in FIKI-equipped Army U-3, before anybody knew what SLD was.  That day I learned that icing exists in what appeared to be innocuous clouds on a day when nobody was forecasting ice, and that ice can take down any aircraft, no matter how well equipped.   If the clouds hadn&#8217;t had a high base with temperatures above freezing in the valleys I wouldn&#8217;t be here today.   </p>
<p>For the rest of my career I worked really, really hard to avoid ice, flying through it but never in it for any period of time.   Later on, the Aviation Digital Data Service (ADDS) icing forecasts were great for picking routes and altitudes which minimized icing encounters.</p>
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		<title>By: John Fuller</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Fuller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 20:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was the summer of 1982 and four of us were flying my deiced non-turbo Aztec to Europe over the Greenland icecap at 13,000&#039; in good weather. Only we found ourselves in a layer, out of VFR coverage (save with airliners above), slowly accumulating rime above a 9,000&#039; icecap. As the speed decayed toward best ROC while we held altitude, I thought of our limited options if we were forced to descend.

The decreased performance was surprising given the small amount of rime (1/4&quot;) and the fat Aztec wing. Cycling the boots shed some of it but my respect for what minimal ice can do to performance took a healthy jump that day.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was the summer of 1982 and four of us were flying my deiced non-turbo Aztec to Europe over the Greenland icecap at 13,000&#8242; in good weather. Only we found ourselves in a layer, out of VFR coverage (save with airliners above), slowly accumulating rime above a 9,000&#8242; icecap. As the speed decayed toward best ROC while we held altitude, I thought of our limited options if we were forced to descend.</p>
<p>The decreased performance was surprising given the small amount of rime (1/4&#8243;) and the fat Aztec wing. Cycling the boots shed some of it but my respect for what minimal ice can do to performance took a healthy jump that day.</p>
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