Comments on: Trolling for TFRs

By: Mike F

Mike F — Wed, 31 Oct 2012 22:31:11 +0000

I’m also in agreement with what others have said above.
The VIP TFR’s are way, way, way overdone. Living in an area that’s had many over the last several months, I can attest what a negative effect they have on GA… not only personal flights but also flight schools, charter operations, and they certainly take a toll on the bottom line of FBO’s in fuel sales, etc.

By: Scott Hampton

Scott Hampton — Tue, 23 Oct 2012 04:23:41 +0000

“Let’s take one thing off the table—the need for VIP TFRs” is just a dumb way of saying, “Problem? What problem?” The whole point of our country is that we have no king, and no one is so important a whole city shuts down just because they happen to be in the vicinity. I don’t care who is in office, whether it’s George Washington or Zaphod Beeblebrox: there is NEVER a need for a so-called “VIP” TFR because no one person is that important.

By: Rick Ragland

Rick Ragland — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 12:40:12 +0000

Since the president and vice president require TFR’s then during the campaign season they should use their campaign contributions to compensate businesses that loose money because they are prohibited from flying. During any other time taxpayer money should be used. Otherwise allow them to deduct the money lost on their taxes or give them tax credits for the lost revenue.

By: Frank Arza

Frank Arza — Sat, 20 Oct 2012 03:46:26 +0000

Why can’t they publish sporting events. It’s bad enough that they use these TFR’s whenever they candidates are in town, but when you ask about sporting events they say you should know.

By: Robert French

Robert French — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 21:37:50 +0000

Most VIP TRF’s are not critical to the operation of the country, campaigning is not a national emergency, closing access to entire cities is unjustified. Not providing timely and complete information for all TFR’s from one source prior to any flight is unreasonable. A pilot should not need to be heads down watching for a ” POP UP “. to avoid a violation. The TFR card is overplayed.

By: Steven Fischer

Steven Fischer — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:35:15 +0000

Am I the only one that thinks that these TFR’s are a usurping of our freedom of movement by our government. Somehow I believe that our freedom to move about in our own country should be put on a higher priority. I’m OK with a TFR during a national emergency. These VIP TFR’s do not qualify as a national emergency. I would like to see AOPA and other flying advocates take a stronger stand on the subject otherwise this is just one more nail in the GA coffin.

By: Clifford Biggs

Clifford Biggs — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:32:36 +0000

There is no reason why accurate TFR data can not be uploaded to the net in a time critical manner by the involved government agencies. If Flight Service has the accurate data then they can have a portal to upload so it can be seen on every device out there. There is NO need for the phone call-If they have the data then they can disseminate it on time and accurately. If it came to a problem in flight then the history log of the device could be used for verification of checking OR a log in data bank could be used.

By: Boyd Birchler

Boyd Birchler — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:12:10 +0000

I sounds to me “Depicted data may not be complete, Check with flight service”, like an inefficient bureaucracy covering for it’s own mistakes ahead of time. How long could it take to present the proper info on the FAA Official TFR web sight.??? Why have this web sight if it is likely to be incorrect???

By: Howard

Howard — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:33:49 +0000

What’s even worse is the way they don’t publish what has to be known weeks before. Example, the debate in Boca Raton, FL this Monday. It is now Friday morning and still no TFR data published. I am trying to plan a trip for this weekend and still don’t know if I can fly back home Sunday! This is BS, they know the schedule…

By: Fred von Zabern

Fred von Zabern — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 23:10:31 +0000

Thank goodness election season is almost over. LA-area’s SOCAL frequencies were conspicuously quiet during the recent Obama-initiated TFRs, and pilots brave enough to test the TFR water would cautiously query SOCAL to ensure they’re doing everything correctly to stay out of TFR trouble. With the 30-nm radius that encompasses nearly the entire LA basin, the affected flight training schools also must be thanking goodness as well. Obama was here at least a dozen times, and the TFRs were truly a pain, to the point of affecting our liberty to fly. User fees are still in the Jobs Bill Obama wants congress to approve, so I’m sure we despised “Corporate Jet Owners” a long way from ever hoping to get compensated. Just like the Catholics being forced to accept health insurance that includes contraceptives, we pilots and C-172 owners are not a caucus that Obama intends to seek votes from, much less compensate. Hopefully after November, this will change.