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		<title>By: christina hendricks</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=22&#038;cpage=1#comment-30572</link>
		<dc:creator>christina hendricks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Mar 2011 20:23:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well for sure something worth of time and reading, you did a great job once again. Hope you&#039;ll get even better.
good luck.
Christina]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well for sure something worth of time and reading, you did a great job once again. Hope you&#8217;ll get even better.<br />
good luck.<br />
Christina</p>
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		<title>By: home made wind generators</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=22&#038;cpage=1#comment-22321</link>
		<dc:creator>home made wind generators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well put job- Will definitely come back again=D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well put job- Will definitely come back again=D</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Goody</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=22&#038;cpage=1#comment-15754</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane Goody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you   want to read a reader&#039;s feedback :) , I rate this article for four from five. Decent info, but I   have to go to that damn google to find the missed pieces. Thanks, anyway!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you   want to read a reader&#8217;s feedback <img src='http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  , I rate this article for four from five. Decent info, but I   have to go to that damn google to find the missed pieces. Thanks, anyway!</p>
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		<title>By: How to Get Six Pack Fast</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=22&#038;cpage=1#comment-15446</link>
		<dc:creator>How to Get Six Pack Fast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you   want to hear a reader&#039;s feedback :) , I rate this article for 4/5. Detailed info, but I   have to go to that damn yahoo to find the missed parts. Thanks, anyway!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=22&#038;cpage=1#comment-14962</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How do you think the current recession will affect the travel business? Maybe people still want to travel - just cheaper?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you think the current recession will affect the travel business? Maybe people still want to travel &#8211; just cheaper?</p>
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		<title>By: James Reed</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=22&#038;cpage=1#comment-2263</link>
		<dc:creator>James Reed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The technique used to tame a crosswind is the pilot&#039;s choice. I am an active instructor in the central valley of California and I have been bombarded by pilots who want to land in a crosswind with less than landing (read full) flaps. I have always thought that the majority of crosswind accidents are the result of loss of directional control upon ground contact. Full flaps will reduce ground speed and therefore directional control on ground contact. If there is insufficient control authority for effective flight controls it might be time to pick a different runway. I am very interrested in comments on this subject.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The technique used to tame a crosswind is the pilot&#8217;s choice. I am an active instructor in the central valley of California and I have been bombarded by pilots who want to land in a crosswind with less than landing (read full) flaps. I have always thought that the majority of crosswind accidents are the result of loss of directional control upon ground contact. Full flaps will reduce ground speed and therefore directional control on ground contact. If there is insufficient control authority for effective flight controls it might be time to pick a different runway. I am very interrested in comments on this subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Heath Fournier</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=22&#038;cpage=1#comment-837</link>
		<dc:creator>Heath Fournier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 18:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I learned to fly in Wichita, Ks and only have about 110 hours.  Here we have no shortage of cross wind scenarios.  I typically use the crab down to the flare and then slip to landing.  This is usually more confortable if you carry passangers a lot.  I do agree with the people that say it takes some delicate handling to master and should probably on be used if you have had much practice with it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned to fly in Wichita, Ks and only have about 110 hours.  Here we have no shortage of cross wind scenarios.  I typically use the crab down to the flare and then slip to landing.  This is usually more confortable if you carry passangers a lot.  I do agree with the people that say it takes some delicate handling to master and should probably on be used if you have had much practice with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Folk</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=22&#038;cpage=1#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Folk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 19:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[During my &quot;pre-solo&quot; flight training, my job caused me to relocate, and I found myself at a different airport with a new instructor. My original instructor favored a crab-to-slip transition on short final and my second instructor favored establishing a slip as part of the landing configuration activities following the turn to final. During my endeavor to become capable and confident with landings, I got plenty of practice using both techniques. I still use both, depending on the wind. 

If the wind is pressing the demonstrated crosswind component of the airplane, I&#039;ll fly the crab. With that much crosswind, I will have been flying a crab on downwind, so the airplane will be trimmed for it, and therefore my typical landing &quot;by-the-numbers&quot; configuration changes will keep me on the runway numbers.  Also, stronger winds are generally gusty, which I find to be less upsetting in a crab.

Rather than &quot;kicking out at the last minute&quot;, I &quot;follow the wind&quot; to transition into the slip on short-short final. As I lessen the crab angle to adjust for the reduced wind force near the ground, there will be a point at which I transition into the slip, maybe add a little power and get aligned for the flare. I liken this to the reverse of taking off into a stiff crosswind, where I transition the upwind-wing-down rotation into a right-rudder-heavy, stick-slightly-forward crab, accelerating in ground effect along the centerline.

In lighter crosswinds, I&#039;ll set up the slip to maintain the centerline early on final and then use some additional power management along with the flight controls to make adjustments. In this case, the transition is simpler, “relaxing” the slip into the flare.

My objective with either method is to respond continuously to the wind with small adjustments, such that the final approach transitions into the upwind-wing-down, longitudinal-axis-on-centerline configuration in ground effect, ready to flare. In retrospect, the slip was probably a better fit with my early training, since there was so much that was new to me, and the seat of my pants had not yet worn in to fit the seat of the airplane. The crab feels more like flying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During my &#8220;pre-solo&#8221; flight training, my job caused me to relocate, and I found myself at a different airport with a new instructor. My original instructor favored a crab-to-slip transition on short final and my second instructor favored establishing a slip as part of the landing configuration activities following the turn to final. During my endeavor to become capable and confident with landings, I got plenty of practice using both techniques. I still use both, depending on the wind. </p>
<p>If the wind is pressing the demonstrated crosswind component of the airplane, I&#8217;ll fly the crab. With that much crosswind, I will have been flying a crab on downwind, so the airplane will be trimmed for it, and therefore my typical landing &#8220;by-the-numbers&#8221; configuration changes will keep me on the runway numbers.  Also, stronger winds are generally gusty, which I find to be less upsetting in a crab.</p>
<p>Rather than &#8220;kicking out at the last minute&#8221;, I &#8220;follow the wind&#8221; to transition into the slip on short-short final. As I lessen the crab angle to adjust for the reduced wind force near the ground, there will be a point at which I transition into the slip, maybe add a little power and get aligned for the flare. I liken this to the reverse of taking off into a stiff crosswind, where I transition the upwind-wing-down rotation into a right-rudder-heavy, stick-slightly-forward crab, accelerating in ground effect along the centerline.</p>
<p>In lighter crosswinds, I&#8217;ll set up the slip to maintain the centerline early on final and then use some additional power management along with the flight controls to make adjustments. In this case, the transition is simpler, “relaxing” the slip into the flare.</p>
<p>My objective with either method is to respond continuously to the wind with small adjustments, such that the final approach transitions into the upwind-wing-down, longitudinal-axis-on-centerline configuration in ground effect, ready to flare. In retrospect, the slip was probably a better fit with my early training, since there was so much that was new to me, and the seat of my pants had not yet worn in to fit the seat of the airplane. The crab feels more like flying.</p>
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		<title>By: blake harris</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=22&#038;cpage=1#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>blake harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 17:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use a combination of the crab and slip. I fly down final in a crab, tracking the runway centerline. Then as I flare, I add rudder to align the nose with the runway while lowering the upwind wing at the same time to hold the runway centerline. This method gives the passengers the most comforatable ride on final and elliminates the timing issues with kicking out of the crab at the last moment.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use a combination of the crab and slip. I fly down final in a crab, tracking the runway centerline. Then as I flare, I add rudder to align the nose with the runway while lowering the upwind wing at the same time to hold the runway centerline. This method gives the passengers the most comforatable ride on final and elliminates the timing issues with kicking out of the crab at the last moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Kenneth Pheley</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=22&#038;cpage=1#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>Kenneth Pheley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 06:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently many of your readers do not understand the diffenece between a slip and a skid when they say they are uncomfortable with cross controls durring landings.Their prinary insructors apparently did a poor job of explaining an important concept.  I teach the slip method, but make my students keep one eye on the airspeed in all approaches. From everything I have read, the fact is that it is very difficult (but not imposible) to spin an aircraft from a slip.  A skid however increases stall speed,and blankets the wing in the direction of the skid. It also puts unusual side loads an an aircraft resulting in a very good chance of spinning it in or stalling. The differnce shoud be understood. A slip is very safe unless the pilot is a totally ham handed pilot. I once had my primary instrutor, many years ago (when I was young and folish), take me out in a 172 and tell me to spin it from a slip. I could not do it! A skid is very dangerous on the other hand. Older aircraft with  a straight wing will of course spin much easer than a aircraft with washout. I also teach the differience in indicated airspeed in a slip and nonslip configuation. It can change indicated airspeed as much a 5 miles an hour in a 172.This is a factor the  last minute &quot;Kick in method&quot;  people do not take into account. I personly an much nore concerned with people jockying controlls arround and trying to see if they have enough rudder to make the landing at the last minuterather than useing a more stabilized approach method. I believe the FAA agrees with me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently many of your readers do not understand the diffenece between a slip and a skid when they say they are uncomfortable with cross controls durring landings.Their prinary insructors apparently did a poor job of explaining an important concept.  I teach the slip method, but make my students keep one eye on the airspeed in all approaches. From everything I have read, the fact is that it is very difficult (but not imposible) to spin an aircraft from a slip.  A skid however increases stall speed,and blankets the wing in the direction of the skid. It also puts unusual side loads an an aircraft resulting in a very good chance of spinning it in or stalling. The differnce shoud be understood. A slip is very safe unless the pilot is a totally ham handed pilot. I once had my primary instrutor, many years ago (when I was young and folish), take me out in a 172 and tell me to spin it from a slip. I could not do it! A skid is very dangerous on the other hand. Older aircraft with  a straight wing will of course spin much easer than a aircraft with washout. I also teach the differience in indicated airspeed in a slip and nonslip configuation. It can change indicated airspeed as much a 5 miles an hour in a 172.This is a factor the  last minute &#8220;Kick in method&#8221;  people do not take into account. I personly an much nore concerned with people jockying controlls arround and trying to see if they have enough rudder to make the landing at the last minuterather than useing a more stabilized approach method. I believe the FAA agrees with me.</p>
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