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	<title>Comments on: Boggs &amp; Stevens &#8211; A Historical Revisit?</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Allen</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=1529&#038;cpage=1#comment-30535</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since ADS-B &quot;Out&quot; is already mandated at a future date, it would certainly make sense to move that date up instead of mandating both ADS-B &quot;Out&quot; and new ELT&#039;s or ELT inspections.  The money that a new 406 mHz ELT would cost, or that would be spent on repetitive ELT inspections, would certainly go a long way toward defraying the cost of a new transponder with ADS-B  &quot;Out&quot; capability, such as the Trig from Europe, which is already available!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since ADS-B &#8220;Out&#8221; is already mandated at a future date, it would certainly make sense to move that date up instead of mandating both ADS-B &#8220;Out&#8221; and new ELT&#8217;s or ELT inspections.  The money that a new 406 mHz ELT would cost, or that would be spent on repetitive ELT inspections, would certainly go a long way toward defraying the cost of a new transponder with ADS-B  &#8220;Out&#8221; capability, such as the Trig from Europe, which is already available!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt S</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=1529&#038;cpage=1#comment-30534</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 01:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ELTs are already required to be mounted properly and inspected frequently. 

FAR 91.205 says in part:
a) Except as provided in paragraphs (e) and (f) of this section, no person may operate a U.S.-registered civil airplane unless—

(1) There is attached to the airplane an approved automatic type emergency locator transmitter that is in operable condition for the following operations, except that after June 21, 1995, an emergency locator transmitter that meets the requirements of TSO-C91 may not be used for new installations.
(b) Each emergency locator transmitter required by paragraph (a) of this section must be attached to the airplane in such a manner that the probability of damage to the transmitter in the event of crash impact is minimized. Fixed and deployable automatic type transmitters must be attached to the airplane as far aft as practicable.
(d) Each emergency locator transmitter required by paragraph (a) of this section must be inspected within 12 calendar months after the last inspection for—

(1) Proper installation;

(2) Battery corrosion;

(3) Operation of the controls and crash sensor; and

(4) The presence of a sufficient signal radiated from its antenna.

So I agree that another inspection in not necesary, but I also think that based on this FAR the mechanics of the airplane and the ELT installer need to be investigated for possibly not doing their job correctly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ELTs are already required to be mounted properly and inspected frequently. </p>
<p>FAR 91.205 says in part:<br />
a) Except as provided in paragraphs (e) and (f) of this section, no person may operate a U.S.-registered civil airplane unless—</p>
<p>(1) There is attached to the airplane an approved automatic type emergency locator transmitter that is in operable condition for the following operations, except that after June 21, 1995, an emergency locator transmitter that meets the requirements of TSO-C91 may not be used for new installations.<br />
(b) Each emergency locator transmitter required by paragraph (a) of this section must be attached to the airplane in such a manner that the probability of damage to the transmitter in the event of crash impact is minimized. Fixed and deployable automatic type transmitters must be attached to the airplane as far aft as practicable.<br />
(d) Each emergency locator transmitter required by paragraph (a) of this section must be inspected within 12 calendar months after the last inspection for—</p>
<p>(1) Proper installation;</p>
<p>(2) Battery corrosion;</p>
<p>(3) Operation of the controls and crash sensor; and</p>
<p>(4) The presence of a sufficient signal radiated from its antenna.</p>
<p>So I agree that another inspection in not necesary, but I also think that based on this FAR the mechanics of the airplane and the ELT installer need to be investigated for possibly not doing their job correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve C.</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=1529&#038;cpage=1#comment-30533</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;There are numerous other benefits to ADS-B besides crash detection...&quot;.

Benefits to whom? Depends on who you are. For the lower-end GA pilot (nuisances though we may be), I&#039;m just not convinced that ADS-B proposes all the value it&#039;s touted to.

Depending on where you happen to crash, with ADS-B, you might have a good track log leading to the accident site, or you might not, depending on what equipment could receive your broadcast at the time of impact. In the flatlands, it would probably work well. In terrain, it&#039;s all a function of where the broadcast could have been seen. In that light, I really can&#039;t see it being all that much different than a SPOT or Spidertracks, and they cost a whole lot less than ADS-B-out.

(All are light-years ahead of a fixed ELT, despite the proposed double-super-redundant inspections. No argument from me there!)

I would buy your argument that there are other benefits to ADS-B if there had been consensus on standards for IN as well as OUT. That didn&#039;t happen, and the even the standards for OUT are doubled, depending on what altitudes you need to fly. In the end, government mostly benefits from it at our direct expense. We pilots, not so much. Lower MEAs perhaps for folks who need that often, but beyond that, I just don&#039;t see it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are numerous other benefits to ADS-B besides crash detection&#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>Benefits to whom? Depends on who you are. For the lower-end GA pilot (nuisances though we may be), I&#8217;m just not convinced that ADS-B proposes all the value it&#8217;s touted to.</p>
<p>Depending on where you happen to crash, with ADS-B, you might have a good track log leading to the accident site, or you might not, depending on what equipment could receive your broadcast at the time of impact. In the flatlands, it would probably work well. In terrain, it&#8217;s all a function of where the broadcast could have been seen. In that light, I really can&#8217;t see it being all that much different than a SPOT or Spidertracks, and they cost a whole lot less than ADS-B-out.</p>
<p>(All are light-years ahead of a fixed ELT, despite the proposed double-super-redundant inspections. No argument from me there!)</p>
<p>I would buy your argument that there are other benefits to ADS-B if there had been consensus on standards for IN as well as OUT. That didn&#8217;t happen, and the even the standards for OUT are doubled, depending on what altitudes you need to fly. In the end, government mostly benefits from it at our direct expense. We pilots, not so much. Lower MEAs perhaps for folks who need that often, but beyond that, I just don&#8217;t see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Jones Jr.</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=1529&#038;cpage=1#comment-30531</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Jones Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:40:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Personally, I believe that the market is ripe for innovative solutions to the problem...rather than a poorly run, cost-inflated, system implemented by the government.  

What can we do to encourage pilots and aviation entrepreneurs to rise to this challenge?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I believe that the market is ripe for innovative solutions to the problem&#8230;rather than a poorly run, cost-inflated, system implemented by the government.  </p>
<p>What can we do to encourage pilots and aviation entrepreneurs to rise to this challenge?</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Kittel</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/leadingedge/?p=1529&#038;cpage=1#comment-30530</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Kittel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 12:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;While those standards are still being sorted out – how about no mandates for a little while?&quot;...  thats how the American government works...always in a knee-jerk, reactive way by throwing more regulations rather than reviewing whats in place. Look at the Colgan crash...same way with airport security... someone tries to light his shoe on fire...everyone needs to remove their shoes...someone tries to light their underwear on fire...  time to strip search granny and your kids...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;While those standards are still being sorted out – how about no mandates for a little while?&#8221;&#8230;  thats how the American government works&#8230;always in a knee-jerk, reactive way by throwing more regulations rather than reviewing whats in place. Look at the Colgan crash&#8230;same way with airport security&#8230; someone tries to light his shoe on fire&#8230;everyone needs to remove their shoes&#8230;someone tries to light their underwear on fire&#8230;  time to strip search granny and your kids&#8230;</p>
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