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	<title>Comments on: Special VFR</title>
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		<title>By: Alan Barnes</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=661#comment-1926</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Feb 2012 03:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s *always* at the discretion of ATC whether they approve your request for SVFR or not.  It could be a workload issue for them.  Also, it&#039;s IFR at the field so they maintain separation between you and the IFR traffic flow.  If they can&#039;t find a spot to fit you in they&#039;re going to deny the clearance.  You&#039;re not seeing everything they are seeing.  I would wager that they are well aware of the differences between airplane and helicopter rules for SVFR.

That being said, if the weather is deteriorating to the point where you really need to land, either just find a place to land or declare an emergency and they can issue a clearance based off of that and bypass visibility (or any other) requirements.  You may have to make a phone call after that but it&#039;s better than putting the ship on the ground in a less controlled manner.  

And never make a flight that depends on you getting a SVFR clearance at the destination since that&#039;s not a guaranteed thing.  

SVFR info is 91.157 and in the AIM 4-4-6 http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/ATpubs/AIM/aim0404.html#aim0404.html.3

Phraseology here http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/fss/fss0405.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s *always* at the discretion of ATC whether they approve your request for SVFR or not.  It could be a workload issue for them.  Also, it&#8217;s IFR at the field so they maintain separation between you and the IFR traffic flow.  If they can&#8217;t find a spot to fit you in they&#8217;re going to deny the clearance.  You&#8217;re not seeing everything they are seeing.  I would wager that they are well aware of the differences between airplane and helicopter rules for SVFR.</p>
<p>That being said, if the weather is deteriorating to the point where you really need to land, either just find a place to land or declare an emergency and they can issue a clearance based off of that and bypass visibility (or any other) requirements.  You may have to make a phone call after that but it&#8217;s better than putting the ship on the ground in a less controlled manner.  </p>
<p>And never make a flight that depends on you getting a SVFR clearance at the destination since that&#8217;s not a guaranteed thing.  </p>
<p>SVFR info is 91.157 and in the AIM 4-4-6 <a href="http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/ATpubs/AIM/aim0404.html#aim0404.html.3" rel="nofollow">http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/ATpubs/AIM/aim0404.html#aim0404.html.3</a></p>
<p>Phraseology here <a href="http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/fss/fss0405.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/fss/fss0405.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=661#comment-1923</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting topic.  I have been given SVAR clearance many times but on occasion a tower has refused for no obvious reason and I woinder if the ATC person on duty knows the difference between fixed wing and rotor rules for SVAR.  It&#039;s a good topic for a full magazine article...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting topic.  I have been given SVAR clearance many times but on occasion a tower has refused for no obvious reason and I woinder if the ATC person on duty knows the difference between fixed wing and rotor rules for SVAR.  It&#8217;s a good topic for a full magazine article&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=661#comment-1883</link>
		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eugene  review 91.157  neither the helo nor the pilot need to be ifr certified or current.  Otherwise most would just file ifr.  Very few single engine helo&#039;s are ifr certified.  I fly a Bell 407 not certified ifr utillize svfr all the time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugene  review 91.157  neither the helo nor the pilot need to be ifr certified or current.  Otherwise most would just file ifr.  Very few single engine helo&#8217;s are ifr certified.  I fly a Bell 407 not certified ifr utillize svfr all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=661#comment-1882</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have requested SVFR many times and for varying reasons during my 35+ years of helicopter flying. Don&#039;t forget however, the aircraft must be IFR certified and capable and the pilot must be IFR rated and current.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have requested SVFR many times and for varying reasons during my 35+ years of helicopter flying. Don&#8217;t forget however, the aircraft must be IFR certified and capable and the pilot must be IFR rated and current.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=661#comment-1880</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 13:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I use this occasionally.  At my airport (KMDW), ATC says, &quot;say your request&quot; as a matter of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use this occasionally.  At my airport (KMDW), ATC says, &#8220;say your request&#8221; as a matter of course.</p>
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