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	<title>Comments on: Eurocopter’s quest for speed</title>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=437#comment-1317</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 04:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ohh yeah, and anyone else think that X-3 is a low blow considering Sikorsky X-2 was named (to the public at least) first!?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohh yeah, and anyone else think that X-3 is a low blow considering Sikorsky X-2 was named (to the public at least) first!?!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=437#comment-1316</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2011 04:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Flapping hinge is not the main limiter for high speed...blade tip compressibility effects for the advancing blade (supersonic) and retreating blade stall are a little bit more.  Lynx used a very interesting blade tip shape to help this...remember that once getting too close to speed of sound it takes a LOT more power due to increased drag.

Unless I have missed something, the military aircraft with OLEO struts can take a LOT more rate of decent than ANY skid, at least in normal landings (I dont typically crash land each different type I fly).  I can tell you that a FIRM landing in an SH-60 on a ship would be a catastrophic airframe failure on a jet ranger!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flapping hinge is not the main limiter for high speed&#8230;blade tip compressibility effects for the advancing blade (supersonic) and retreating blade stall are a little bit more.  Lynx used a very interesting blade tip shape to help this&#8230;remember that once getting too close to speed of sound it takes a LOT more power due to increased drag.</p>
<p>Unless I have missed something, the military aircraft with OLEO struts can take a LOT more rate of decent than ANY skid, at least in normal landings (I dont typically crash land each different type I fly).  I can tell you that a FIRM landing in an SH-60 on a ship would be a catastrophic airframe failure on a jet ranger!</p>
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		<title>By: Jay B</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=437#comment-1250</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These new variants still have the main limitation that all helicopters have, only more so, that being TOO MANY MOVING PARTS!  It&#039;s not natural like a nice fixed wing. Believe it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These new variants still have the main limitation that all helicopters have, only more so, that being TOO MANY MOVING PARTS!  It&#8217;s not natural like a nice fixed wing. Believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Kovnat</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=437#comment-1247</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Kovnat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Dec 2010 14:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Safety shouldn&#039;t be a problem. The two side propellers, are no more (or less!) dangerous than the propellers on a King Air or any other airplane. Or for that matter, the tail rotor on a conventional helicopter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Safety shouldn&#8217;t be a problem. The two side propellers, are no more (or less!) dangerous than the propellers on a King Air or any other airplane. Or for that matter, the tail rotor on a conventional helicopter.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean C</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=437#comment-1244</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 23:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand that this is a prototype, but I hope for the passengers sake that they&#039;re able to find a safer configuration prior to serial production. This is a huge step backwards for Eurocopter safety-wise, with all those unprotected blades whirling right where the passengers are going to load and unload.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand that this is a prototype, but I hope for the passengers sake that they&#8217;re able to find a safer configuration prior to serial production. This is a huge step backwards for Eurocopter safety-wise, with all those unprotected blades whirling right where the passengers are going to load and unload.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Kovnat</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=437#comment-1243</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Kovnat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 13:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I took another look at various pictures I could find and yes, the Black Hawk numerous other helo designs do indeed have wheels. Sorry abt. that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I took another look at various pictures I could find and yes, the Black Hawk numerous other helo designs do indeed have wheels. Sorry abt. that.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve King</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=437#comment-1242</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 22:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A comment on Nov 23:  &quot;Exciting future – when does it stop being a helicopter and become a airplane with a main rotor?&quot;
Seems to me that the X3 is somewhere between being a helicopter and a girocopter, and is closer to being a girocopter, like the 1930&#039;s Pitcairn-Cierva Autogiros.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Autogiro_Company.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comment on Nov 23:  &#8220;Exciting future – when does it stop being a helicopter and become a airplane with a main rotor?&#8221;<br />
Seems to me that the X3 is somewhere between being a helicopter and a girocopter, and is closer to being a girocopter, like the 1930&#8242;s Pitcairn-Cierva Autogiros.  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Autogiro_Company" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitcairn_Autogiro_Company</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Capt JB</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=437#comment-1241</link>
		<dc:creator>Capt JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 19:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Guys, 

Speed limitation on helicopters is NOT due to landing gear , but to maximum speed a on blades. Remember the helicopter spin its blades to obtain lift, when the airplane is tracted by it propeller. Hence the zero airspeed stall existing for a helicopter (hovering).
The speed affecting the blade is calculated by adding the airspeed to the blade proper speed for the advancing blade, and by subtracting airspeed from blade own speed for the retreating blade. This airspeed difference is also a lift generation difference, which is controlled by the flapping hinge of the blade.
This flapping hinge has limitations like to not hit and chop the tailboom, ouppps.
The fastest helicopter in the world is a lynx and has the advantage of having a rigid main rotor.
At speed over 200kts the flapping hinges are starting to have difficulties to compensate difference of lift between advancing blade and retreating blade. This is why the idea of the X3 is to use propellers to move the helicopter and slowly reduce the main rotor speed - which lost of lift will be compensated by the small wings.
Many solutions to obtain this have been studied, V-22, Fairey Rotoryne, etc. the X3 is based on the same principle the fairey rotodyne and should be more succesfull than the V-22 because it is not using tilt rotors but a single main rotor to provide lift at low airspeed, and will have a same aerodynamic reactions as a normal helicopter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys, </p>
<p>Speed limitation on helicopters is NOT due to landing gear , but to maximum speed a on blades. Remember the helicopter spin its blades to obtain lift, when the airplane is tracted by it propeller. Hence the zero airspeed stall existing for a helicopter (hovering).<br />
The speed affecting the blade is calculated by adding the airspeed to the blade proper speed for the advancing blade, and by subtracting airspeed from blade own speed for the retreating blade. This airspeed difference is also a lift generation difference, which is controlled by the flapping hinge of the blade.<br />
This flapping hinge has limitations like to not hit and chop the tailboom, ouppps.<br />
The fastest helicopter in the world is a lynx and has the advantage of having a rigid main rotor.<br />
At speed over 200kts the flapping hinges are starting to have difficulties to compensate difference of lift between advancing blade and retreating blade. This is why the idea of the X3 is to use propellers to move the helicopter and slowly reduce the main rotor speed &#8211; which lost of lift will be compensated by the small wings.<br />
Many solutions to obtain this have been studied, V-22, Fairey Rotoryne, etc. the X3 is based on the same principle the fairey rotodyne and should be more succesfull than the V-22 because it is not using tilt rotors but a single main rotor to provide lift at low airspeed, and will have a same aerodynamic reactions as a normal helicopter.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Way</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=437#comment-1240</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Way</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 14:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a video of the X3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxhogYKwV7Y]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a video of the X3:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxhogYKwV7Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxhogYKwV7Y</a></p>
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		<title>By: Rick Bruns</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=437#comment-1239</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick Bruns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Nov 2010 13:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alex Kovnat Says:  &quot;With current rotary wing birds like the Black Hawk, this isn’t a problem because the landing gear is a fixed skid – no wheels, no retraction mechanism.&quot;
Lost me there ... after 4,500 + hrs in them, I&#039;ve never noticed the &quot;fixed skids&quot; on a Blackhawk.  
Alex, please clarify your point!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex Kovnat Says:  &#8220;With current rotary wing birds like the Black Hawk, this isn’t a problem because the landing gear is a fixed skid – no wheels, no retraction mechanism.&#8221;<br />
Lost me there &#8230; after 4,500 + hrs in them, I&#8217;ve never noticed the &#8220;fixed skids&#8221; on a Blackhawk.<br />
Alex, please clarify your point!</p>
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