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		<title>By: M</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=276#comment-985</link>
		<dc:creator>M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Apr 2010 21:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Greetings:
I am a pilot new to HEMS, and I am trying to soak up as much as I can.  My questions are genuine, I&#039;m not trying to be flippant.

-Multi-Engine Helicopters:  First, I have no time in twin helicopters.  That being said, my understanding is that most HEMS accidents are due to helicopters running into things: from towers/obstacles, to LZ mishaps, to other helicopters.  How does a twin helicopter help?  Or are the twins meant to address a power problem for ingress/egress?

-IFR:  I do hold IFR and CFII ratings in helis and airplanes.  I definitely do understand the benefit of being able to fly IFR, if only to react to inadvertent IMC.  Moreover, I recently heard Matt Zucarro explain that one of HAIs top lobbying issues is to establish a low-altitude airspace system.  How would this IFR capability and airspace structure aid in off-site operations?  I would think the most dangerous situation would be descending IFR into an area you hope is VMC, with no approach or wx observations.

-Training:  In the article above, Mr. McAdams mentioned increased training.  Specifically in what area?  As I mentioned, how do you increase training for CFIT/O? (I have dubbed CFIO as Controlled Flight into Obstacles)  I imagine that it is largely due to low weather, visibility, and single pilot workload which causes the pilot to &quot;miss&quot; what is going on outside.  Short of two-pilot crews (which I support) how can this be mitigated by training?

I am hear to learn, any insight is greatly appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings:<br />
I am a pilot new to HEMS, and I am trying to soak up as much as I can.  My questions are genuine, I&#8217;m not trying to be flippant.</p>
<p>-Multi-Engine Helicopters:  First, I have no time in twin helicopters.  That being said, my understanding is that most HEMS accidents are due to helicopters running into things: from towers/obstacles, to LZ mishaps, to other helicopters.  How does a twin helicopter help?  Or are the twins meant to address a power problem for ingress/egress?</p>
<p>-IFR:  I do hold IFR and CFII ratings in helis and airplanes.  I definitely do understand the benefit of being able to fly IFR, if only to react to inadvertent IMC.  Moreover, I recently heard Matt Zucarro explain that one of HAIs top lobbying issues is to establish a low-altitude airspace system.  How would this IFR capability and airspace structure aid in off-site operations?  I would think the most dangerous situation would be descending IFR into an area you hope is VMC, with no approach or wx observations.</p>
<p>-Training:  In the article above, Mr. McAdams mentioned increased training.  Specifically in what area?  As I mentioned, how do you increase training for CFIT/O? (I have dubbed CFIO as Controlled Flight into Obstacles)  I imagine that it is largely due to low weather, visibility, and single pilot workload which causes the pilot to &#8220;miss&#8221; what is going on outside.  Short of two-pilot crews (which I support) how can this be mitigated by training?</p>
<p>I am hear to learn, any insight is greatly appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=276#comment-944</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 16:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you hear someone speaking so well about their company without mentioning the name of that great EMS company it&#039;s usually  1- they&#039;re new at that company so they&#039;re in the honeymoon stage and can&#039;t see the bad side  2- They&#039;re low timers and just glad to have a job flying a turbine 3- they&#039;re really in management trying to downplay the bad press and not a line pilot....just saying.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you hear someone speaking so well about their company without mentioning the name of that great EMS company it&#8217;s usually  1- they&#8217;re new at that company so they&#8217;re in the honeymoon stage and can&#8217;t see the bad side  2- They&#8217;re low timers and just glad to have a job flying a turbine 3- they&#8217;re really in management trying to downplay the bad press and not a line pilot&#8230;.just saying.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=276#comment-939</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 07:09:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tony, I&#039;m extremely happy you have found a great company to work for. Please tell us what company you work for. I&#039;d be proud to tell the world which company I work for if it was as good as you are telling us yours is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, I&#8217;m extremely happy you have found a great company to work for. Please tell us what company you work for. I&#8217;d be proud to tell the world which company I work for if it was as good as you are telling us yours is.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=276#comment-937</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just a note,
Not all EMS companies skimp on training. Not every EMS company let the medical side pressure pilots.
I&#039;ve been doing this for a while and I&#039;ve seen the &quot;good, bad and ugly&quot;.
I&#039;m just a pilot whose been working for several years.
At my current employment my is training is quite good. I have great and well maintained equipment to use.  Luckily I have well trained and motivated crews to work with. And I have never ever been questioned for turning down a flight due to questionable weather or maintenance issues.
Usually when people respond on these sites there is a lot of negativity.
The bad is out there but its not all bad.
For the young pilots remember that during your interview that you are also interviewing your new company.
The FAA standards are minimums. If your employer is straining just to achieve the minimums you may wan&#039;t to look elsewhere.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note,<br />
Not all EMS companies skimp on training. Not every EMS company let the medical side pressure pilots.<br />
I&#8217;ve been doing this for a while and I&#8217;ve seen the &#8220;good, bad and ugly&#8221;.<br />
I&#8217;m just a pilot whose been working for several years.<br />
At my current employment my is training is quite good. I have great and well maintained equipment to use.  Luckily I have well trained and motivated crews to work with. And I have never ever been questioned for turning down a flight due to questionable weather or maintenance issues.<br />
Usually when people respond on these sites there is a lot of negativity.<br />
The bad is out there but its not all bad.<br />
For the young pilots remember that during your interview that you are also interviewing your new company.<br />
The FAA standards are minimums. If your employer is straining just to achieve the minimums you may wan&#8217;t to look elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack of Hearts</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=276#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack of Hearts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Money is the issue in a lot of things.  If the FAA wants safety, they need to come up with a lot of money.  Next time an EMS helicopter gets called and the weather is too bad to fly, don&#039;t fly and send the bill for lost revenue to the FAA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money is the issue in a lot of things.  If the FAA wants safety, they need to come up with a lot of money.  Next time an EMS helicopter gets called and the weather is too bad to fly, don&#8217;t fly and send the bill for lost revenue to the FAA.</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Weiss</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=276#comment-935</link>
		<dc:creator>Avi Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CR;

I concur that rules will have an immediate effect on reducing the amount of &quot;bad behavior&quot; both on the management side and the flight crew side, and I too have been around long enough to not be &quot;Pollyanna&quot; about the immediacy and totality of effect that certification programs and even new FAA RULES would have on the overall accident rate, but as you know changing mindset is neither simple nor quick, especially in the aviation community.

Even if rule changes WERE implemented, continually operating safely requires a continuous safety mindset, something that really can&#039;t be legislated. Sure... management knows they are putting pressure on pilots, but to your point, if they are aren&#039;t forced to constantly think about, or live with the consequences of that pressure (even outside of criminal negligence, which by the way, such charges can always be brought by prosecutors NOW, if they felt there was criminal intent, and they had PROOF of such action), then it is easier for them to maintain the status-quo. Will forcing them through safety awareness training once a quarter make a difference? If the course has strong content and good presentation, and generates organization-wide awareness, my bet is it will reach some of them, which is better than none of them. Hopefully over time, that number would grow.

Again, it would be the &quot;completeness&quot; of the program that would work to simultaneously improve pilot tools, skills and proficiency in the specific areas of operation, imbue the WHOLE operation with a safety mindset, and educate the consumers of EMS services that they have a CHOICE in selecting operators who work to a higher standard of performance. That covers all the &quot;risk-generation&quot; elements, but again, in the end its the judgment and value system of the people involved that will make or break it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CR;</p>
<p>I concur that rules will have an immediate effect on reducing the amount of &#8220;bad behavior&#8221; both on the management side and the flight crew side, and I too have been around long enough to not be &#8220;Pollyanna&#8221; about the immediacy and totality of effect that certification programs and even new FAA RULES would have on the overall accident rate, but as you know changing mindset is neither simple nor quick, especially in the aviation community.</p>
<p>Even if rule changes WERE implemented, continually operating safely requires a continuous safety mindset, something that really can&#8217;t be legislated. Sure&#8230; management knows they are putting pressure on pilots, but to your point, if they are aren&#8217;t forced to constantly think about, or live with the consequences of that pressure (even outside of criminal negligence, which by the way, such charges can always be brought by prosecutors NOW, if they felt there was criminal intent, and they had PROOF of such action), then it is easier for them to maintain the status-quo. Will forcing them through safety awareness training once a quarter make a difference? If the course has strong content and good presentation, and generates organization-wide awareness, my bet is it will reach some of them, which is better than none of them. Hopefully over time, that number would grow.</p>
<p>Again, it would be the &#8220;completeness&#8221; of the program that would work to simultaneously improve pilot tools, skills and proficiency in the specific areas of operation, imbue the WHOLE operation with a safety mindset, and educate the consumers of EMS services that they have a CHOICE in selecting operators who work to a higher standard of performance. That covers all the &#8220;risk-generation&#8221; elements, but again, in the end its the judgment and value system of the people involved that will make or break it.</p>
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		<title>By: CR</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=276#comment-934</link>
		<dc:creator>CR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree. the new A021 is a joke. The idea behind it was fine but then they left the loophole I was talking about. If there&#039;s an obstacle you just have to be able to go around it. What did A021 change? NOTHING. You fly the same routes but now have to waste time documenting the highest obstacle. More wasted time. Do you think the pilots who ran into things didn&#039;t know they were there when they departed? Of course they did but for some reason or another, usually bad weather and high workload, they missed something. Tell me how writing that highest obstacle number before taking off is going to help you. 

Like I said before, until the FAA gets serious about wanting to fix the problem and not just putting out useless Op Specs to please some people that don&#039;t really do anything to help, we&#039;ll all continue to be in danger of becoming statistics too.

PS : I just thought about something. As soon as Congress or whoever can do it makes it criminally negligent for managers to put pressure on pilots and we see a few of these yahoos go to jail then we&#039;ll start seeing some changes. Every company says safety is their #1 concern, until you remind them of the money issue, then safety goes to #2 (pun intended).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree. the new A021 is a joke. The idea behind it was fine but then they left the loophole I was talking about. If there&#8217;s an obstacle you just have to be able to go around it. What did A021 change? NOTHING. You fly the same routes but now have to waste time documenting the highest obstacle. More wasted time. Do you think the pilots who ran into things didn&#8217;t know they were there when they departed? Of course they did but for some reason or another, usually bad weather and high workload, they missed something. Tell me how writing that highest obstacle number before taking off is going to help you. </p>
<p>Like I said before, until the FAA gets serious about wanting to fix the problem and not just putting out useless Op Specs to please some people that don&#8217;t really do anything to help, we&#8217;ll all continue to be in danger of becoming statistics too.</p>
<p>PS : I just thought about something. As soon as Congress or whoever can do it makes it criminally negligent for managers to put pressure on pilots and we see a few of these yahoos go to jail then we&#8217;ll start seeing some changes. Every company says safety is their #1 concern, until you remind them of the money issue, then safety goes to #2 (pun intended).</p>
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		<title>By: Old Pilot</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=276#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator>Old Pilot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a joke! As long as the medical side of the industry sets the tone of operations there will be no change. Kevin says use that cool computer planning tool to comply with  HEMS A021, you&#039;re not serious are you? First that costs $$$ the hospitals are NOT going to spend, second we are already under pressure to check WX and NOTAMS, plan the route IAW  HEMS A021 pull the A/C out of the hanger, do a walk around, start &amp; runup &quot;using the checklist of course&quot; and depart in 7 yes I said SEVEN minutes. Now do you really believe this all happens? Cause if you do I have some beachfront property in Inchon I would like to sell you. Then of coures there is the WX shopping you know three other programs have said no so they call you and most of the time don&#039;t tell you anyone else has said no. I could go on but my blood presssure is going to spike if I do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a joke! As long as the medical side of the industry sets the tone of operations there will be no change. Kevin says use that cool computer planning tool to comply with  HEMS A021, you&#8217;re not serious are you? First that costs $$$ the hospitals are NOT going to spend, second we are already under pressure to check WX and NOTAMS, plan the route IAW  HEMS A021 pull the A/C out of the hanger, do a walk around, start &amp; runup &#8220;using the checklist of course&#8221; and depart in 7 yes I said SEVEN minutes. Now do you really believe this all happens? Cause if you do I have some beachfront property in Inchon I would like to sell you. Then of coures there is the WX shopping you know three other programs have said no so they call you and most of the time don&#8217;t tell you anyone else has said no. I could go on but my blood presssure is going to spike if I do.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Fitzpatrick</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=276#comment-932</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 15:05:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m always amazed when I learn about EMS operations that are non-profit and funded by donations.  I imagaine budgeting can take a major role in operations where your success depends on the generosity of individuals and businesses - especially in a down economy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always amazed when I learn about EMS operations that are non-profit and funded by donations.  I imagaine budgeting can take a major role in operations where your success depends on the generosity of individuals and businesses &#8211; especially in a down economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Carbone</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=276#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Carbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ED/IT Aviation Products Div released a new version of our eSectionals software on April 8th to assist all pilots who FLY LOW to comply with a new FAA regulation for air-medical pilots (HEMS A021). eSectionals lets the pilot draw their flight route on an a Sectional or TAC. The software then displays all the obstacles along their flight path, shows an elevation profile, and marks the highest terrain for each flight leg, and prints a table of the data. HEMS A021 requires pilots to fly at certain minimums above the highest terrain and highest obstacle for each leg of their flight. In addtion, when the flight path is not know, eSectionals permits the pilot to draw a box around the flight area. eSectionals then creates a report to document all the obstacles and finds the highest obstalce and terrain within that flight area. Currently, over 50% of all HEMS operators are using our eSectionals US Edition to assist them in complying with A021. eSectionals, for that purpose, is excellent for anyone who flys low, pipline surveillance, spraying operations, and so on. You can get more info by visiting http://www.vfrcopilot.com. In our Press Release topic, you can find a link to download our HEMS USER GUIIDE(pdf).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ED/IT Aviation Products Div released a new version of our eSectionals software on April 8th to assist all pilots who FLY LOW to comply with a new FAA regulation for air-medical pilots (HEMS A021). eSectionals lets the pilot draw their flight route on an a Sectional or TAC. The software then displays all the obstacles along their flight path, shows an elevation profile, and marks the highest terrain for each flight leg, and prints a table of the data. HEMS A021 requires pilots to fly at certain minimums above the highest terrain and highest obstacle for each leg of their flight. In addtion, when the flight path is not know, eSectionals permits the pilot to draw a box around the flight area. eSectionals then creates a report to document all the obstacles and finds the highest obstalce and terrain within that flight area. Currently, over 50% of all HEMS operators are using our eSectionals US Edition to assist them in complying with A021. eSectionals, for that purpose, is excellent for anyone who flys low, pipline surveillance, spraying operations, and so on. You can get more info by visiting <a href="http://www.vfrcopilot.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.vfrcopilot.com</a>. In our Press Release topic, you can find a link to download our HEMS USER GUIIDE(pdf).</p>
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