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	<title>Comments on: Loss of tail rotor thrust</title>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=163#comment-780</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 21:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The complete loss of tail rotor thrust will causes some disfunctionalities to the machine and therefore causes accidents.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The complete loss of tail rotor thrust will causes some disfunctionalities to the machine and therefore causes accidents.</p>
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		<title>By: Ehud Gavron</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=163#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator>Ehud Gavron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 21:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Typically if you are comparing the tail-rotor thrust vs the thrust effect of the torque of the engine and transmission as applied to the main-rotor, the tail rotor wins.  That means that in most circumstances, no matter how much torque you apply to the main-rotor, the tail rotor at the end of the long lever called &quot;the tailcone&quot; has sufficient thrust to overcome that torque.

In some helicopters (Bell 407 AD, later cancelled) the tail rotor is limited in movement past a certain airspeed.  The difference between tail-rotor effectiveness and main-rotor torque is greatest at HIGH torque settings, and lowest at LOW main-rotor torque.

So for the questio &quot;if the engine is not producing enough power&quot;, since the power is shared through a fixed-gear transmission, the tail-rotor will always have enough (as per the manufacturer&#039;s specification) to counteract the torque.  

If you wanted to find an edge-case (also known as &quot;pathological failure&quot;) it would be a case where the MR is generating a HUGE amount of torque but the TR can&#039;t compensate for it, and undoubtedly that&#039; snot because &quot;the engine isn&#039;t producing enough power&quot; but rather that the engine is being operated outside of the allowed operating parameters.  (Temp/pressures for turbine/intake mfld.)

Ehud]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typically if you are comparing the tail-rotor thrust vs the thrust effect of the torque of the engine and transmission as applied to the main-rotor, the tail rotor wins.  That means that in most circumstances, no matter how much torque you apply to the main-rotor, the tail rotor at the end of the long lever called &#8220;the tailcone&#8221; has sufficient thrust to overcome that torque.</p>
<p>In some helicopters (Bell 407 AD, later cancelled) the tail rotor is limited in movement past a certain airspeed.  The difference between tail-rotor effectiveness and main-rotor torque is greatest at HIGH torque settings, and lowest at LOW main-rotor torque.</p>
<p>So for the questio &#8220;if the engine is not producing enough power&#8221;, since the power is shared through a fixed-gear transmission, the tail-rotor will always have enough (as per the manufacturer&#8217;s specification) to counteract the torque.  </p>
<p>If you wanted to find an edge-case (also known as &#8220;pathological failure&#8221;) it would be a case where the MR is generating a HUGE amount of torque but the TR can&#8217;t compensate for it, and undoubtedly that&#8217; snot because &#8220;the engine isn&#8217;t producing enough power&#8221; but rather that the engine is being operated outside of the allowed operating parameters.  (Temp/pressures for turbine/intake mfld.)</p>
<p>Ehud</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis Enders</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=163#comment-406</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis Enders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 18:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the aircraft is in a high hover setting and the engine is not producing enough power (but within designed capabilities) will the aircraft then enter into loss of tail rotor effectiveness?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the aircraft is in a high hover setting and the engine is not producing enough power (but within designed capabilities) will the aircraft then enter into loss of tail rotor effectiveness?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim McAdams</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=163#comment-405</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim McAdams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daniel,

You&#039;re right. Thanks for catching that, I made the correction.

Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. Thanks for catching that, I made the correction.</p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel L. Lieberman</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=163#comment-404</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel L. Lieberman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 13:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Paragraph 2 third sentence airspeed should be airflow.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paragraph 2 third sentence airspeed should be airflow.</p>
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		<title>By: Airwolf2000</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=163#comment-394</link>
		<dc:creator>Airwolf2000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What about a run on landing,or is that strictly a stuck pedal  solution ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about a run on landing,or is that strictly a stuck pedal  solution ?</p>
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