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		<title>By: Soldering</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=127#comment-827</link>
		<dc:creator>Soldering</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 07:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Congratulations on the relevant post. Indeed, we are approaching a new era in the application of composite materials. Since advanced composites are obtained by combining materials with different physical-chemical and mechanical properties into different manufacturing processes, research and development work in this area is progressively becoming more important. The increasing use of structural composites has stimulated the development of trained human resources in order to successfully achieve the challenges of obtaining components with multiple functions, taking into account procedures to increase productivity at lower cost and quality compatible with the use of the product. While researching the topic, I came to know a company that manufactures this kind of composing material. They offer bonding solutions based on many combination&#039;s of dissimilar materials. At their website (http://www.s-bond.com/applications.htm) you can check the various application areas that have been successful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on the relevant post. Indeed, we are approaching a new era in the application of composite materials. Since advanced composites are obtained by combining materials with different physical-chemical and mechanical properties into different manufacturing processes, research and development work in this area is progressively becoming more important. The increasing use of structural composites has stimulated the development of trained human resources in order to successfully achieve the challenges of obtaining components with multiple functions, taking into account procedures to increase productivity at lower cost and quality compatible with the use of the product. While researching the topic, I came to know a company that manufactures this kind of composing material. They offer bonding solutions based on many combination&#8217;s of dissimilar materials. At their website (<a href="http://www.s-bond.com/applications.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.s-bond.com/applications.htm</a>) you can check the various application areas that have been successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Kuriger</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=127#comment-379</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Kuriger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 15:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Phillip Peterson had a great qustion that I didn&#039;t see an answer for.

I believe Phillip is correct, in that the fully articulated system simply accommodates individual balde acceleration and deacceleration that is induced by flapping, an thus prevents transmitting those forces to the rest of the rotor system.  Consider now, in retrospect, what happens in a semi-rigid system.  The advancing blade flaps up, and tries to accelerate, while at the same time the retreating blade is doing just the opposite.  Of course this all reverses every 180 degrees of rotation.  Without drag hinges the rotor system has to flex back and forth to accommodate the forces.  Please note that I am not an authority in this field, and would welcome any feedback from an industry expert.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phillip Peterson had a great qustion that I didn&#8217;t see an answer for.</p>
<p>I believe Phillip is correct, in that the fully articulated system simply accommodates individual balde acceleration and deacceleration that is induced by flapping, an thus prevents transmitting those forces to the rest of the rotor system.  Consider now, in retrospect, what happens in a semi-rigid system.  The advancing blade flaps up, and tries to accelerate, while at the same time the retreating blade is doing just the opposite.  Of course this all reverses every 180 degrees of rotation.  Without drag hinges the rotor system has to flex back and forth to accommodate the forces.  Please note that I am not an authority in this field, and would welcome any feedback from an industry expert.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim McAdams</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=127#comment-318</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim McAdams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 03:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alex,

Thanks for adding information on those advanced designs. 

Tim]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>Thanks for adding information on those advanced designs. </p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Kovnat</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=127#comment-315</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Kovnat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Tim for describing the basics of helicopter operation for those who are not familiar with this topic.

I would now like to call your, and your readers, attention to some promising ideas that I hope will be put into regular production by the helicopter industry. 

First, the Sikorsky X2. We all know how the majority of the world&#039;s helicopters have a main rotor for propulsion and lift, and a tail rotor to balance out the main rotor&#039;s drive torque. The X2 uses two main rotors turning in opposite directions, whereby drive torque is divided equally between the two so you don&#039;t need a tail rotor to counteract main rotor torque like you do if you only have one main rotor. This is the same basic principle used by Piasecki/Boeing Vertol tandem rotor helicopters, notably the CH-47 Chinook. The difference between the Chinook and the X-2, is that with the latter the two rotors are coaxial (one above the other). 

This means that in addition to not needing a tail rotor, you have advancing blades on both port and starboard sides. This offers the advantage of eliminating the retreating rotor blade stall problem. Also, instead of a tail rotor in back, there is a propeller (think of the pusher props on some homebuilt airplanes) which can propel the X2 at speeds well past 200 knots. (Here, an aside: You need to be just as careful about not being hit by that auxiliary prop as has always been necessary with conventional tail rotors). 

For those who are interested, see Aerospace Testing International, March 2009 edition. 

There is another concept that also shows promise: Piasecki Aircraft Corporation has developed a technology demonstrator, the X-49A. This machine has one single main rotor. As with the Sikorsky X-2, there is a pusher prop in the rear instead of a conventional tail rotor. Since the X-49A does not have counter-rotating main rotors, it utilizes control surfaces to deflect the pusher prop&#039;s slipstream sideways, so as to produce as great a yawing effect as is necessary to counteract main rotor torque. Piasecki calls their basic idea a Vectored Thrust Ducted Propeller. The X-49A also features auxiliary fixed wings, to provide lift in high-speed forward flight. 

Let us all wish both Sikorsky and Piasecki (the latter was founded by the late Frank Piasecki, father of the tandem rotor configuration) all the best with their respective concepts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim for describing the basics of helicopter operation for those who are not familiar with this topic.</p>
<p>I would now like to call your, and your readers, attention to some promising ideas that I hope will be put into regular production by the helicopter industry. </p>
<p>First, the Sikorsky X2. We all know how the majority of the world&#8217;s helicopters have a main rotor for propulsion and lift, and a tail rotor to balance out the main rotor&#8217;s drive torque. The X2 uses two main rotors turning in opposite directions, whereby drive torque is divided equally between the two so you don&#8217;t need a tail rotor to counteract main rotor torque like you do if you only have one main rotor. This is the same basic principle used by Piasecki/Boeing Vertol tandem rotor helicopters, notably the CH-47 Chinook. The difference between the Chinook and the X-2, is that with the latter the two rotors are coaxial (one above the other). </p>
<p>This means that in addition to not needing a tail rotor, you have advancing blades on both port and starboard sides. This offers the advantage of eliminating the retreating rotor blade stall problem. Also, instead of a tail rotor in back, there is a propeller (think of the pusher props on some homebuilt airplanes) which can propel the X2 at speeds well past 200 knots. (Here, an aside: You need to be just as careful about not being hit by that auxiliary prop as has always been necessary with conventional tail rotors). </p>
<p>For those who are interested, see Aerospace Testing International, March 2009 edition. </p>
<p>There is another concept that also shows promise: Piasecki Aircraft Corporation has developed a technology demonstrator, the X-49A. This machine has one single main rotor. As with the Sikorsky X-2, there is a pusher prop in the rear instead of a conventional tail rotor. Since the X-49A does not have counter-rotating main rotors, it utilizes control surfaces to deflect the pusher prop&#8217;s slipstream sideways, so as to produce as great a yawing effect as is necessary to counteract main rotor torque. Piasecki calls their basic idea a Vectored Thrust Ducted Propeller. The X-49A also features auxiliary fixed wings, to provide lift in high-speed forward flight. </p>
<p>Let us all wish both Sikorsky and Piasecki (the latter was founded by the late Frank Piasecki, father of the tandem rotor configuration) all the best with their respective concepts.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Connell</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=127#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Connell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 14:23:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The H-43 series by Kaman had still a different rotor head architecture.  It consisted of two rotor drive shafts driven through a common transmission.  Each shaft had a head with two rotor blades and the shafts rotated opposite the other to conteract torque.  The head had a teeter hinge with droop stops to control blade vertical travel at power-up and shutdown.  Both blades had lead-lag hinges.  There was no &quot;feather&quot; hinge.  The blades were made of wood with a pitch control servo flap.  The blades physically twisted for pitch change.  The wood characteristics could change somewhat due to weather conditions.  This would cause the tip path plane of the blades to get somewhat out of track causing a vertical vibration.  The pilot could adjust the blade tracking in flight via a servo tuning function.  Less than 200 H-43s were manufactured...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The H-43 series by Kaman had still a different rotor head architecture.  It consisted of two rotor drive shafts driven through a common transmission.  Each shaft had a head with two rotor blades and the shafts rotated opposite the other to conteract torque.  The head had a teeter hinge with droop stops to control blade vertical travel at power-up and shutdown.  Both blades had lead-lag hinges.  There was no &#8220;feather&#8221; hinge.  The blades were made of wood with a pitch control servo flap.  The blades physically twisted for pitch change.  The wood characteristics could change somewhat due to weather conditions.  This would cause the tip path plane of the blades to get somewhat out of track causing a vertical vibration.  The pilot could adjust the blade tracking in flight via a servo tuning function.  Less than 200 H-43s were manufactured&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Phillip Peterson</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/helicopter/?p=127#comment-301</link>
		<dc:creator>Phillip Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the second paragraph, how does &quot;allowing the blades to lead-lag reduce[s] this tendency&quot;?  Doesn&#039;t a lead-lag hinge just accommodate this tendency?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the second paragraph, how does &#8220;allowing the blades to lead-lag reduce[s] this tendency&#8221;?  Doesn&#8217;t a lead-lag hinge just accommodate this tendency?</p>
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		<title>By: Avi Weiss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi Weiss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:34:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim;

Nice article. Didn&#039;t realize that the robi hinge is called a coning hinge and primarily there to reduce reinforcement requirements.

Also, some key benefits to hinge-less rotor systems are 1. less parts to break and replace 2. lower operating costs (though higher initial costs due to more costly materials) as most rotor system components, including composite rotors, are moving from being &quot;life limited&quot; to &quot;on demand&quot;.

-avi]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim;</p>
<p>Nice article. Didn&#8217;t realize that the robi hinge is called a coning hinge and primarily there to reduce reinforcement requirements.</p>
<p>Also, some key benefits to hinge-less rotor systems are 1. less parts to break and replace 2. lower operating costs (though higher initial costs due to more costly materials) as most rotor system components, including composite rotors, are moving from being &#8220;life limited&#8221; to &#8220;on demand&#8221;.</p>
<p>-avi</p>
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