Comments on: UPDATE: iOS5 update troubles

By: JOE

JOE — Tue, 29 Nov 2011 21:15:27 +0000

I find the same thing, Takes up alot of room on my ipad + Iphone 4s

By: Jan Melkebeek

Jan Melkebeek — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 22:19:42 +0000

I think the problems with IOS5 are not (necessarily) linked with memory problems. My iPad has plenty of memory. Yet Jeppesen TC lost all the data after upgrading to IOS5 (and there was plenty of memory left). But Jeppesen FD still worked fine. There were also other apps that did not work any more with IOS5.
After I upgraded to IOS5.01 all problems disappeared. So I recommend those with IOS5 to upgrade as soon as possible to IOS5.01 .
(note: my PC has Windows XP and this did not cause any problems with the upgrade of the iPad2).

In my view, the iPad is a quite nice thing. When you compare price/performance to ‘aviation specific’ gear, the iPad is a winner, no doubt.
I still will carry paper approach plates for departure, destination and one alternate field (as well as the en route charts) but I can now avoid the weight of paper charts for other IFR fields on my routing.

The only disadvantage (to me, as an engineer) is that one cannot access the data structure of the iPad (as is possible with Windows based things). But on the other hand, you will not have to reboot it 4 or 5 times after an automatic upgrade (like my PC running Windows XP ).

By: Bruce McGregor

Bruce McGregor — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:43:57 +0000

From the developer:

Both PilotFAR and PilotAIM have compatibility issues with iOS5, and for this reason we pulled these apps from the App Store in October. We recently submitted a PilotFAR update to Apple and hope it will be released this week. PilotAIM will be close behind.

By: Fred Corporal

Fred Corporal — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:14:07 +0000

I recently downloaded IOS 5.01 on my Iphone 4 and on my Ipad2 and had absolutely no problems of disapearing maps out of my nav system (AeroNav which is European). But now I have to fill that bookcase!

By: Bill Woody

Bill Woody — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 19:12:02 +0000

If you installed ios5, then you have the cloud. All of your pictures, music, magazines, movies, books, newspapers etc., are pushed into the cloud, and not stored on the iPad, thus not using any memory space.. Your apps are on your iPad, but take up very little memory. I have five screens of apps, most dealing with flying (including current FAR/AIM) or engineering, my profession. I still have over 42GB of memory remaining. The possibility of loosing data from WingX or Foreflight because of memory load is so extremely miniscule that I am surprised that this subject is even being discussed.

The iPad is the best product ever made available to pilots, at an extremely low initial cost, compared to those similar products design for aviation use, which are easily five or six times the price of the iPad. Further the iPad provides online services for duats, etc, and the annual subscription is so much less that Jepp it is unbelievable. If you have a fast modem the update downloads only take a few minutes. Why any serious pilot does not take advantage of this powerful tool as a back up GPS navigator, storage of Approach, STAR and DP procedures and flight planner, is beyond me.

By: David Bry

David Bry — Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:20:28 +0000

Apple is addressing this issue (and a few others) with an update that is in testing now:

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/11/02/apple-posts-ios-5-0-1-beta-for-developers/

Could be 2 or 3 weeks before it is available to the public.

By: Richard

Richard — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:35:00 +0000

Re the comment: “Apple IOS5 is not compatible with XP” I am running XP and have had no trouble after upgrading to iOS5.

By: Danny

Danny — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 11:00:21 +0000

I have been flying with an iPad 1 for over one year without an issue. When I decided to update to OSX Lion and IOS 5, I made the precautionary move to phone Apple Support directly. I used the following methodology and successfully updated my iPad to IOS 5 without losing any data:

1) Sync you iPad in iTunes before updating. DO NOT allow iTunes to update your iPad.
2) After syncing, Command click on your device in the left-hand column & a menu will pop up.
3) Back up your iPad to your computer from the pop up menu.
4) After backing-up, click in the center of the screen for Updates. IOS 5 will load on you iPad.
5) After loading, go through the menus on your iPad, which pertains to iCloud, etc.
6) After going through the menus in IOS 5, re-sync your iPad by Command clicking on your device (as above) and choosing to restore from Backup.

As a precaution, before starting this procedure I backed-up my iPad and iPhone, then my Mac to an external hard drive. I backup every week, and it paid dividends when someone spilled a drink on my keyboard some time ago, frying my computer.

By: Matt

Matt — Sat, 29 Oct 2011 17:08:53 +0000

I didn’t have any issues with the iOS 5 update; as for the comments about avoiding the iPad, this issue only occurs for applications that store data in the caches directory. Developers were depending on a behavior (the OS wasn’t regularly clearing out the cache data) as opposed to storing things perpetually in the application’s documents container.

As for those of you that lost cached data on an OS update, the same thing applies. Cache folders (like a TMP directory) aren’t considered that important by the OS (any OS.) So when the device is updated, the directory is wiped.

I agree, there should be a better solution, and it’s being worked on, but to suggest this is some sort of flaw is a bit of an overstatement.

By: George

George — Fri, 28 Oct 2011 23:14:26 +0000

I recently uploaded i0S5 and lost all of my emails and deleted emails as well as all of my Foreflight data. Additionally I frequently have to reboot the system to even make an outgoing call. This is a flawed system and one should be very careful in deciding to access it. I wish I had not. The old system worked fine. I had similar problems with my IPad 2. Getting access to the ICloud is not worth the lost data.