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	<title>Comments on: Headwinds, headwinds, and more headwinds</title>
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		<title>By: Jeff Frey</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/blog/?p=1139&#038;cpage=1#comment-96120</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Frey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 14:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You would think that on a round trip that they would average out and you would at least get tailwinds 50% of the time.  Like you though it seems like I&#039;m always fighting a headwind.  Last month on a family trip to Myrtle Beach we had a headwind down and then coming back about a 25 knot headwind to deal with.  

This weekend we flew from Delaware to Michigan though and had a small tailwind.  Not bad for a trip heading west.  Usually I&#039;m only getting around 100 knots ground speed across the mountains heading west in my Archer and I was actually getting around 125 knots.  Hopefully the wind shifts by tomorrow morning so I can have a tailwind for the return trip.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would think that on a round trip that they would average out and you would at least get tailwinds 50% of the time.  Like you though it seems like I&#8217;m always fighting a headwind.  Last month on a family trip to Myrtle Beach we had a headwind down and then coming back about a 25 knot headwind to deal with.  </p>
<p>This weekend we flew from Delaware to Michigan though and had a small tailwind.  Not bad for a trip heading west.  Usually I&#8217;m only getting around 100 knots ground speed across the mountains heading west in my Archer and I was actually getting around 125 knots.  Hopefully the wind shifts by tomorrow morning so I can have a tailwind for the return trip.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Twombly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Twombly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 12:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good observations Finbar, and absolutely correct. But aside from the issue of the headwind acting on us longer, doesn&#039;t it seem like on a leg-by-leg basis, we get more headwinds than tailwinds? I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ve ever gotten a tailwind in both directions of a trip, for example. But I&#039;ve had a headwind both directions many times.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good observations Finbar, and absolutely correct. But aside from the issue of the headwind acting on us longer, doesn&#8217;t it seem like on a leg-by-leg basis, we get more headwinds than tailwinds? I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ve ever gotten a tailwind in both directions of a trip, for example. But I&#8217;ve had a headwind both directions many times.</p>
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		<title>By: Finbar Sheehy</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/blog/?p=1139&#038;cpage=1#comment-96096</link>
		<dc:creator>Finbar Sheehy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 22:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ian,

Your perception is correct. On average you should spend more time fighting headwinds than enjoying tailwinds, because the headwind legs take longer.

If you fly at 100kt into a 20kt headwind for 100nm, it will take you 1.25 hours.
Fly the 100nm back, with a 20kt tailwind, and it will take you 0.833 hours.

Observe that:
1) You are back where you started, but the winds didn&#039;t average out. The round trip took 2.0833 hours, not 2.0000 hours - an extra 5 minutes of flight time over the no-wind condition. Headwinds hurt more than tailwinds help.

2) You spent 60% of your flight time fighting a headwind, and only 40% enjoying a tailwind. 

So you are right. You have a bad headwind/tailwind record. So do we all!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>Your perception is correct. On average you should spend more time fighting headwinds than enjoying tailwinds, because the headwind legs take longer.</p>
<p>If you fly at 100kt into a 20kt headwind for 100nm, it will take you 1.25 hours.<br />
Fly the 100nm back, with a 20kt tailwind, and it will take you 0.833 hours.</p>
<p>Observe that:<br />
1) You are back where you started, but the winds didn&#8217;t average out. The round trip took 2.0833 hours, not 2.0000 hours &#8211; an extra 5 minutes of flight time over the no-wind condition. Headwinds hurt more than tailwinds help.</p>
<p>2) You spent 60% of your flight time fighting a headwind, and only 40% enjoying a tailwind. </p>
<p>So you are right. You have a bad headwind/tailwind record. So do we all!</p>
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		<title>By: freds</title>
		<link>http://blog.aopa.org/blog/?p=1139&#038;cpage=1#comment-96091</link>
		<dc:creator>freds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 01:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Turbo arrow trip from Seattle to Boston Maine. 10.6 hours eastbound at 19K, 21 hours for the return (counting cows in North Dakota and Montana).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turbo arrow trip from Seattle to Boston Maine. 10.6 hours eastbound at 19K, 21 hours for the return (counting cows in North Dakota and Montana).</p>
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